Sign upLog in. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. 1. 19. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). The BIG12 would be stupid to go. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Who stands to benefit the most?“@USFBullTampaBuc They should’ve built these a decade ago. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. and. 1 — and for No. twitter. “@godawgs4 Not really. So at least more spots open. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. ”@MHver3 · May 25. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. Got a PAC update. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. It was $24. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. Look for a thread soon. 1. Sign upAt this point there’s probably more votes of no confidence for Kliavkoff than there are yes votes for SDSU. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. We currently get about $4m for that same content. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. MHver3 @MHver3. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. @MHver3. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. I don’t hate the PAC. Found. 17. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. I’ll update as I get more info. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . It actually decreases it. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. Sign upSee new Tweets. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Log in. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. AZ has and AZSU problem. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. Baylor is too. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. 11. As did VT. Quote Tweets. yes they are extending his “deadline”. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Corey Wishnia. MHver3. @MHver3. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. Yormark has a vision. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. 2. @MHver3. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. @MHver3. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. GIF. OMG I was wrong. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Replying to. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. 3. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. Might even see a Huskie or two. @MHver3. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 27. 2. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If Jimbo gets fired from TAMU (unlikely but possible) he would be the front runner. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. I’ve shared that here last summer. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. Also the FB CCG. Houston and BYU applications are in. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. ”Log in. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. Ugh. ”Log in. Retweets. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. That was a guarantee. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. ” MHver3 @MHver3. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. Ed. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. ALT. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. Quote Tweets. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. " / Twitter. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. Gonzaga better fit for Pac. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. 2. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. FSU is the most attractive maybe. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Retweets. 4. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. Mountaineer Steve. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. I’m packing it up. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. bob trollsby. @xtmountain. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. But simply never happens. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. @MHver3. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. Factions have formed. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. 13. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. 2. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. @MHver3. Replying to @Brewenor. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. 82. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. ” March 7th. 2. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. We currently get about $4m for that same content. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. 9. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. I’m packing it up. @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. Replying to @MHver3. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. 2. They let UCF pass them up. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. @MHver3. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Amazon gets more first choice. 26. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Show more replies. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. and @TheAPBerry. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. AZ too. ”Log in. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. Likes. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. 239. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. 251. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. It was $24. There. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. That will never happen because these additions are based on valuation metrics. 7h. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. @m_iguel_ca. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. @MHver3. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. All 3 tiers. ”GK about to get shipped to China. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. MHver3. and @Mountaineer_Ste. Likes. Pitt actually did improve after the move. MHver3. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. Replying to. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. 1. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. 2. 3. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. Likes. FSU is the most attractive maybe. Also a high ranking member of. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. MHver3 @MHver3. Miguel. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. There’s a catch. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. MHver3 @MHver3. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. @MHver3. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. Feb 21. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. MHver3 @MHver3. Likes. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. ”Log in. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. Now it’s been twice verified. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. Learn more. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. Boise. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. But not the question asked. Likes. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂.